Rosemary's Bibi: On Swashbuckling, Soup, and the Birth of a Tradwife Nation

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Rosemary's Bibi: On Swashbuckling, Soup, and the Birth of a Tradwife Nation

Kat Rosenfield

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Phoebe Maltz Bovy

Dec 22, 2023

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In an extra-long, very special episode, Kat and Phoebe finish out the year with a retrospective on the death (or was it?) of journalism, a discussion of Soup Discourse, and a debate on the foolishness (or is it?) of tradwives.

Links:

James Bennett's essay: When the New York Times lost its way

Phoebe on the death of swashbuckling:

Close-reading the reruns with Phoebe Maltz Bovy

Did wokeness kill swashbuckling?

Basically every writer, journalist, and thinker I respect and who is on my general side of things insamuch as I have one (plenty of others I respect who are not!) was rapturously sharing James Bennet’s lengthy Economist J’accuse of the New York Times…

a year ago · 45 likes · 12 comments · Phoebe Maltz Bovy

Kat on tradwives…: The Paradoxical Freedom of Tradwife Tiktok

…and the cost of soup.

The usual palm tree

The first rule of inflation is, you don't talk about inflation

Look, I am not an economist (she said, dusting the cobwebs from her Substack.) I wouldn’t want to be; it seems like a thankless job and one I would be terrible at. But as a middle class, middle aged woman who is mostly in charge of procuring the food for my household, this week’s Grocery Wars discourse is right in my personal-if-not-professional wheelho…

a year ago · 22 likes · 9 comments · Kat Rosenfield

The origins of “Rosemary’s Bibi” in a single image:

A person in a suit

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